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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 1275481" data-attributes="member: 3051">Wow. A 10th level character managed to bump off 30 1/4 CR creatures in a single turn. Never mind that this is an encounter of such a trivial nature for such a character that he gets no experience for it. First, it allowed me to try to cleave twenty times into the Hill Giant with class levels, who clearly would have been a challenge otherwise.  He died, of course.  I thought this part was implied by the context of the discussion.Second, this was only part of a larger encounter; the DM was throwing giants, vampires, trolls, ogre mages, a small dragon, etc. at us and decided to add a bunch of kobolds to crowd the space.  They'd set up flanking opportunities, Aid Another, and in general impede our movement.  (Oh, and act as food for the vampires...).  Fireball was out of the question due to other constraints (hostages), and we didn't have Chain Lightning.Clearing the entire population out in one round definitely helped the outcome.  In that situation, they're not thirty individual CR 1/4 creatures, they're more like a trap that resets itself until you destroy it; the threat is not in the damage they do to you, it's in their ability to impede you against the others.  Throwing hordes of "popcorn" creatures at the PCs has a lot going for it.  Like someone said earlier, they can group-grapple half your party while a few bigger enemies wipe you out.Whirlwind Attack allows you to attack enemies. Snails are not enemies."Enemy" means whatever you want it to mean in this context.  This isn't a magical ability; it's a mundane Feat, representing combat skill.  If I decide to attack someone, what does THEIR intent have to do with whether the feat can be used?Besides, I hate them, so they clearly hate me, and these are MAGICAL snails.  Who can be sure they don't have some sort of hive-mind thing going on, plotting world domination while we ignore them?  They're like the Flumphs, but even more insidious.</blockquote>

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