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<blockquote data-quote="Corlon" data-source="post: 1889586" data-attributes="member: 6905">Oh yeah, it's evil to kill that bag of puppies&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />.But on a serious note, I'd allow it.&nbsp; If it works by the RAW and isn't completely ludicrous it's fine.&nbsp; Cleave definitely effects DM's more than the players anyways, and a simple way to imagine it without cinematic crazy battle scenes is:&nbsp; &quot;Orc A moves up and attacks Character-with-cleave and misses.&nbsp; Orc B sets up a defense against a counter attack from the character (of course this is all imagined with the DND I hit you you hit me system.&nbsp; It works but it's already requires imagination.)&nbsp; Orc B walks up and for some reason (who knows with orcs anyways) drinks a potion.&nbsp; Character-with-cleave takes advantage of the orc drinking a potion and makes a large arc with his sword.&nbsp; The sword carries through the orcs torso (or the mace knocks him back...okay for piercing this doesn't quite work, but it's kind of hard to imagine piercing working with cleave ANYWAY) and carries through to hit Orc A.&nbsp; If you can imagine cleave normally I don't see how imagining it in an AoO is that hard.And if the characters pull any bag of puppies stuff, be a good DM and just say &quot;no.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Corlon, post: 1889586, member: 6905"] Oh yeah, it's evil to kill that bag of puppies :D. But on a serious note, I'd allow it. If it works by the RAW and isn't completely ludicrous it's fine. Cleave definitely effects DM's more than the players anyways, and a simple way to imagine it without cinematic crazy battle scenes is: "Orc A moves up and attacks Character-with-cleave and misses. Orc B sets up a defense against a counter attack from the character (of course this is all imagined with the DND I hit you you hit me system. It works but it's already requires imagination.) Orc B walks up and for some reason (who knows with orcs anyways) drinks a potion. Character-with-cleave takes advantage of the orc drinking a potion and makes a large arc with his sword. The sword carries through the orcs torso (or the mace knocks him back...okay for piercing this doesn't quite work, but it's kind of hard to imagine piercing working with cleave ANYWAY) and carries through to hit Orc A. If you can imagine cleave normally I don't see how imagining it in an AoO is that hard. And if the characters pull any bag of puppies stuff, be a good DM and just say "no." [/QUOTE]

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