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<blockquote data-quote="Geron Raveneye" data-source="post: 1890003" data-attributes="member: 2268"><p>Which would kinda defeat the purpose of my demonstration of showing that each rule can be set up in a way that it looks overpowered, underpowered or broken, huh, if I only use "real broken" ones, especially as a "broken rule" still is a matter of interpretation, at least in my eyes, as every rule is applied by people with different points of view to different gaming styles. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p>This whole discussion is actually a pretty neat example of it, because you're constructing a situation that shows that a rule a lot of others don't interpret as broken at all can be exploitet with the help of a Summon Monster spell and the slightly loose definition of who may be victim to an Attack of Opportunity. I can only answer to your example that, in the unlikely case anybody ever trying to explain to me that he gets an Attack of Opportunity on an ally running past him in a battle and that, if he kills that ally, he gets an AoO on the bad guy standing right beside him watching the whole thing, I'm going to have a very good laugh out of it, probably even allow it once because the bad guy is simply flabbergasted by this, see that his alignment switches to something more resembling his actual behavior, and get on with the game. And yeah, it might just turn out that next time the wizard summons his creatures to serve as "cannon fodder" for that tactic, they might choose to attack the fighter for real, to at least give him "viable" targets for his AoO+Cleave combo. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious :]" data-shortname=":]" /> </p><p></p><p>And about those 30 examples...please excuse me, but my time is more needed elsewhere than in designing overspecific examples for generally working rules. *shrugs*</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Geron Raveneye, post: 1890003, member: 2268"] Which would kinda defeat the purpose of my demonstration of showing that each rule can be set up in a way that it looks overpowered, underpowered or broken, huh, if I only use "real broken" ones, especially as a "broken rule" still is a matter of interpretation, at least in my eyes, as every rule is applied by people with different points of view to different gaming styles. ;) This whole discussion is actually a pretty neat example of it, because you're constructing a situation that shows that a rule a lot of others don't interpret as broken at all can be exploitet with the help of a Summon Monster spell and the slightly loose definition of who may be victim to an Attack of Opportunity. I can only answer to your example that, in the unlikely case anybody ever trying to explain to me that he gets an Attack of Opportunity on an ally running past him in a battle and that, if he kills that ally, he gets an AoO on the bad guy standing right beside him watching the whole thing, I'm going to have a very good laugh out of it, probably even allow it once because the bad guy is simply flabbergasted by this, see that his alignment switches to something more resembling his actual behavior, and get on with the game. And yeah, it might just turn out that next time the wizard summons his creatures to serve as "cannon fodder" for that tactic, they might choose to attack the fighter for real, to at least give him "viable" targets for his AoO+Cleave combo. :] And about those 30 examples...please excuse me, but my time is more needed elsewhere than in designing overspecific examples for generally working rules. *shrugs* [/QUOTE]
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