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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 1896851" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Doubtful. It wouldn't be the first time that we ran a DM out on a rail for being a moron.</p><p></p><p>However, it is rare because most of our DMs tend to be fairly intelligent and understand the reason for Summon spells in a game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Summon Monster creatures are extraplanar. If they are "killed", they are not harmed, they merely go back to their plane of existance. No evil in killing them.</p><p></p><p>Arcane Construct creatures are not living in the traditional sense. If they are killed, they merely evaporate back into the ectoplasm from which they were crafted. No evil in killing them.</p><p></p><p>The only core spells that acquire allies that could possibly be used for evil are the Summon Nature's Ally and Giant Vermin type spells.</p><p></p><p>However, since the discussion so far has been about the Summon Monster spell, your alignment argument is invalid.</p><p></p><p>Now, if the extraplanar creatures in your campaign can be actually hurt or killed, you are basically going outside the reason WotC made the creatures from Summon Monster extraplanar in the first place (i.e. to get beyond the alignment/evil issue).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, you are someone who does not understand the difference between evil acts and non-evil ones.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 1896851, member: 2011"] Doubtful. It wouldn't be the first time that we ran a DM out on a rail for being a moron. However, it is rare because most of our DMs tend to be fairly intelligent and understand the reason for Summon spells in a game. Summon Monster creatures are extraplanar. If they are "killed", they are not harmed, they merely go back to their plane of existance. No evil in killing them. Arcane Construct creatures are not living in the traditional sense. If they are killed, they merely evaporate back into the ectoplasm from which they were crafted. No evil in killing them. The only core spells that acquire allies that could possibly be used for evil are the Summon Nature's Ally and Giant Vermin type spells. However, since the discussion so far has been about the Summon Monster spell, your alignment argument is invalid. Now, if the extraplanar creatures in your campaign can be actually hurt or killed, you are basically going outside the reason WotC made the creatures from Summon Monster extraplanar in the first place (i.e. to get beyond the alignment/evil issue). No, you are someone who does not understand the difference between evil acts and non-evil ones. [/QUOTE]
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