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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 1897403" data-attributes="member: 23094"><p>Incorrect.</p><p></p><p>*IF* you were really, really distracted by the blood in your eyes, then yes, you'd provoke an AoO from everyone (say, distracted enough to need a Heal check). But you're not really distracted all that much.</p><p></p><p>Instead, only someone who has <strong>specifically trained</strong> to take advantage of such small gaps in defense can benefit.</p><p></p><p>As in, only someone who's picked up the Cleave feat can benefit from this momentary lapse.</p><p></p><p>Or, to put it another way, you *are* provoking a special kind of AoO, one which only a person with a special version of Combat Reflexes can respond to.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are both threatening the same spearman, therefore his spear point is whirling about, parrying both your swings and those of the astral construct on the other side of the wall. </p><p></p><p>Suddenly, he doesn't have to worry about the astral construct any more, allowing him to redouble his efforts against you. </p><p></p><p>Suddenly, that spear point - which, following his normal pattern, should have been about to swing away a poke at something else - is instead <em>coming right back at your face</em>. </p><p></p><p>There's been a momentum shift in the battle, caused by the fact that the spearman is not only no longer actively engaged with the construct, but that he no longer even needs to keep an eye on it, and can instead focus his attention solely on <strong>you</strong>.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, if there's a "bit of unfairness" there, regardless of my opinion, how can MMV?</p><p></p><p>That's a contradictory statement, sir.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 1897403, member: 23094"] Incorrect. *IF* you were really, really distracted by the blood in your eyes, then yes, you'd provoke an AoO from everyone (say, distracted enough to need a Heal check). But you're not really distracted all that much. Instead, only someone who has [b]specifically trained[/b] to take advantage of such small gaps in defense can benefit. As in, only someone who's picked up the Cleave feat can benefit from this momentary lapse. Or, to put it another way, you *are* provoking a special kind of AoO, one which only a person with a special version of Combat Reflexes can respond to. You are both threatening the same spearman, therefore his spear point is whirling about, parrying both your swings and those of the astral construct on the other side of the wall. Suddenly, he doesn't have to worry about the astral construct any more, allowing him to redouble his efforts against you. Suddenly, that spear point - which, following his normal pattern, should have been about to swing away a poke at something else - is instead [i]coming right back at your face[/i]. There's been a momentum shift in the battle, caused by the fact that the spearman is not only no longer actively engaged with the construct, but that he no longer even needs to keep an eye on it, and can instead focus his attention solely on [b]you[/b]. So, if there's a "bit of unfairness" there, regardless of my opinion, how can MMV? That's a contradictory statement, sir. [/QUOTE]
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