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<blockquote data-quote="Lamoni" data-source="post: 1899133" data-attributes="member: 12680">Wow, still going.I'd just like to add one more thing that I thought of as I was reading through the last few pages.There has been arguments about cleaving off of invisible or imaginary opponents.&nbsp; In a game that didn't allow Cleave off of an AoO, I would let the fighter with great cleave slay as many imaginary opponents as he wanted.&nbsp; Each time he slayed an imaginary opponent, great cleave would let him get another attack at the same bonus.I like this.&nbsp; I like to imagine cleave as &quot;if you drop a creature, you get to act as if that attack didn't happen (with regards to the actions you can make, the creature is still dead or dying)&quot;Obviously, that is not how the feat was written.&nbsp; If it was written this way it would also allow the fighter to attack, move, attack and therefore also be useful in campaigns with smaller groups of enemies that aren't all grouped together.&nbsp; So, it appears I am not advocating the change to nerf Cleave since my change would make it stronger, not weaker.&nbsp; Anyway I wish it was written that way, but I am happy to play the game according to however the DM wants to with regard to this issue.Happy gaming everyone!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lamoni, post: 1899133, member: 12680"] Wow, still going. I'd just like to add one more thing that I thought of as I was reading through the last few pages. There has been arguments about cleaving off of invisible or imaginary opponents. In a game that didn't allow Cleave off of an AoO, I would let the fighter with great cleave slay as many imaginary opponents as he wanted. Each time he slayed an imaginary opponent, great cleave would let him get another attack at the same bonus. I like this. I like to imagine cleave as "if you drop a creature, you get to act as if that attack didn't happen (with regards to the actions you can make, the creature is still dead or dying)" Obviously, that is not how the feat was written. If it was written this way it would also allow the fighter to attack, move, attack and therefore also be useful in campaigns with smaller groups of enemies that aren't all grouped together. So, it appears I am not advocating the change to nerf Cleave since my change would make it stronger, not weaker. Anyway I wish it was written that way, but I am happy to play the game according to however the DM wants to with regard to this issue. Happy gaming everyone! [/QUOTE]

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