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<blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1899478" data-attributes="member: 5777">your rogue buddy should've readied an action. All of the benefit, none of the drawback. Looks like someone took advantage of the situation of him not doing the smart thing.if you are not ok with being hit by a trap twice if someone runs across it twice then I dont know what to say, dont let people into your party who are going to do bad things to you.cleave doesnt have any one set, 'this is exactly what happens every time' sort of deal, it is all about the situation.This is simply one of those situations where it can work. Someone was dropped, by whatever means, and now they get to make that extra attack. That is what the feat does. Just like combat reflexes says you get to make aoo's even while flatfooted this feat allows you to make an attack whenever you down someone. Same deal.Some people have some major issues with cleave, but if they just think about it in a more dynamic sense that should go away. Some dms I know have a major issue with the aoo allowed from combat reflexes, but that can be viewed in the same manner. Or they can simply ignore it, but then the same could be said for every single aspect of the game so that isnt terribly helpful, especially in the rules forum <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scion, post: 1899478, member: 5777"] your rogue buddy should've readied an action. All of the benefit, none of the drawback. Looks like someone took advantage of the situation of him not doing the smart thing. if you are not ok with being hit by a trap twice if someone runs across it twice then I dont know what to say, dont let people into your party who are going to do bad things to you. cleave doesnt have any one set, 'this is exactly what happens every time' sort of deal, it is all about the situation. This is simply one of those situations where it can work. Someone was dropped, by whatever means, and now they get to make that extra attack. That is what the feat does. Just like combat reflexes says you get to make aoo's even while flatfooted this feat allows you to make an attack whenever you down someone. Same deal. Some people have some major issues with cleave, but if they just think about it in a more dynamic sense that should go away. Some dms I know have a major issue with the aoo allowed from combat reflexes, but that can be viewed in the same manner. Or they can simply ignore it, but then the same could be said for every single aspect of the game so that isnt terribly helpful, especially in the rules forum ;) [/QUOTE]

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