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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 1909971" data-attributes="member: 707"><p>I allow a Cleave on an AoO. As FireLance stated, I see the attacker as simultaneously exchanging blows with any and all attackers within his threat range. An AoO is a momentary opening that allows what was otherwise a negligible swing to become a serious threat (and therefore get an attack roll.)</p><p></p><p>I use a variety of different descriptions of Cleave. In the case of enemies standing beside each other, I like the ol' "cut through one guy, follow through to the other" description. For Cleaves where the opponents are not adjacent, I tend to describe it as one foe's death causing a momentary drop of the other foe's guard. Perhaps the foes were good friends. Perhaps the remaining foe was shaken by seeing his buddy's guts spilt out over the dungeon floor. Perhaps (as someone else described) you swing the downed foe into the standing one. Whatever the reason, it gives the attacker a chance to have one of his thrusts become a serious threat (and thus gain an attack.)</p><p></p><p>In a way, Cleave basically allows you to gain an AoO on another foe in range, if you manage to drop one. It <em>creates</em> an AoO, similar to the way Hold The Line creates an AoO for moving into a threatened space. The only difference is that Cleave's granted attack doesn't count toward your limit of AoOs. It has its own restriction, which can be expanded by picking up Great Cleave.</p><p></p><p>Ah, well. Works for me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 1909971, member: 707"] I allow a Cleave on an AoO. As FireLance stated, I see the attacker as simultaneously exchanging blows with any and all attackers within his threat range. An AoO is a momentary opening that allows what was otherwise a negligible swing to become a serious threat (and therefore get an attack roll.) I use a variety of different descriptions of Cleave. In the case of enemies standing beside each other, I like the ol' "cut through one guy, follow through to the other" description. For Cleaves where the opponents are not adjacent, I tend to describe it as one foe's death causing a momentary drop of the other foe's guard. Perhaps the foes were good friends. Perhaps the remaining foe was shaken by seeing his buddy's guts spilt out over the dungeon floor. Perhaps (as someone else described) you swing the downed foe into the standing one. Whatever the reason, it gives the attacker a chance to have one of his thrusts become a serious threat (and thus gain an attack.) In a way, Cleave basically allows you to gain an AoO on another foe in range, if you manage to drop one. It [i]creates[/i] an AoO, similar to the way Hold The Line creates an AoO for moving into a threatened space. The only difference is that Cleave's granted attack doesn't count toward your limit of AoOs. It has its own restriction, which can be expanded by picking up Great Cleave. Ah, well. Works for me. :) [/QUOTE]
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