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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 7947734" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p><span style="font-size: 22px"><strong><em>Triceratops</em> Redux</strong></span></p><p>Huge Animal</p><p><strong>Hit Dice:</strong> 16d8+112 (184 hp)</p><p><strong>Initiative:</strong> –1</p><p><strong>Speed:</strong> 30 ft. (6 squares)</p><p><strong>Armor Class:</strong> 18 (–2 size, –1 Dex, +11 natural), touch 7, flat-footed 18</p><p><strong>Base Attack/Grapple:</strong> +12/+30</p><p><strong>Attack:</strong> Gore +20 melee (2d8+15)</p><p><strong>Full Attack:</strong> Gore +20 melee (2d8+15)</p><p><strong>Space/Reach:</strong> 15 ft./10 ft.</p><p><strong>Special Attacks:</strong> Powerful charge, trample 2d12+15 [<em>DC28</em>]</p><p><strong>Special Qualities:</strong> Low-light vision, scent</p><p><strong>Saves:</strong> Fort +19, Ref +9, Will +6</p><p><strong>Abilities:</strong> Str 30, Dex 9, Con 25, Int 1, Wis 12, Cha 7</p><p><strong>Skills:</strong> Listen +13, Spot +12</p><p><strong>Feats:</strong> Alertness, Endurance, Great Fortitude, Improved Bull Run, Power Attack, Run</p><p><strong>Environment:</strong> Temperate plains</p><p><strong>Organization:</strong> Solitary, pair, or herd (5–8)</p><p><strong>Challenge Rating:</strong> 9</p><p><strong>Treasure:</strong> None</p><p><strong>Alignment:</strong> Always neutral</p><p><strong>Advancement:</strong> 17–24 HD (Huge); 25–32 HD (Gargantuan)</p><p><strong>Level Adjustment:</strong> —</p><p></p><p>A <em>Triceratops </em>has a body about 25 feet long and weighs about 15,000 pounds.</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 18px">Combat</span></strong></p><p>These creatures are likely to charge and skewer any creature of at least Large size that infringes on their territory. A <em>Triceratops </em>uses its trample attack on smaller opponents.</p><p></p><p><strong>Powerful Charge (Ex):</strong> When a <em>Triceratops </em>charges, its gore attack deals 4d8+20 points of damage.</p><p></p><p><strong>Trample (Ex):</strong> Reflex half DC 28. The save DC is Strength-based.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: green"><strong><span style="font-size: 18px">Design Notes</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: green">The <em>Triceratops</em> is probably the most soundly designed of the SRD Dinosaurs. Its only significant problem is a very poor feat selection. The original monster had four Toughness feats, which adds little to the build's effectiveness. It also seems a bit too heavy for a Ceratopsian of that size.</span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green">These stats can also be used for pretty much any Huge Ceratopsian, since their differences in habitat and head-ornamentation would not have changed their 3E D&D mechanics significantly. It's worth mentioning that many of these dinosaurs might not have used their horns to fight or lacked horns altogether, but all Ceratopsians would have had extremely powerful jaws and scissor-like rows of teeth capable of shearing through substantial branches. The "gore" might actually be with their jaws.</span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green">It's worth mentioning that the SRD's <em>Triceratops</em> has a Challenge Rating one higher than its <em>Tyrannosaurus</em> (CR 9 vs 8), and this version retains that relationship. The <em>Triceratops</em> isn't as tough as two Tyrannosaurs as the CRs would indicate, but it would certainly be the favourite in a one-on-one fight since it has a better AC, slightly more hit points and its Powerful Charge does more damage than a <em>Tyrannosaurus's</em> bite. Personally I'd rather they have the same Challenge Rating to better stage the epic "carnosaur vs. ceratopsian" brawls from movies I have a fondness for, but that seemed outside the scope of the SRD Redux conversions. Later Cleon Special versions of these animals will likely be tweaked to the two combatants are more evenly matched.</span></p><p><span style="color: green"></span></p><p><span style="color: green">Oh, the <em>Triceratops'</em> Trample attack is very effective against humanoid-size opponents, which might be the justification for its CR being higher than a <em>Tyrannosaurus</em>. Challenge Ratings are intended as monsters-versus-PC metrics after all, not as rough guides to monster-versus-monster fights.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 7947734, member: 57383"] [SIZE=6][B][I]Triceratops[/I] Redux[/B][/SIZE] Huge Animal [B]Hit Dice:[/B] 16d8+112 (184 hp) [B]Initiative:[/B] –1 [B]Speed:[/B] 30 ft. (6 squares) [B]Armor Class:[/B] 18 (–2 size, –1 Dex, +11 natural), touch 7, flat-footed 18 [B]Base Attack/Grapple:[/B] +12/+30 [B]Attack:[/B] Gore +20 melee (2d8+15) [B]Full Attack:[/B] Gore +20 melee (2d8+15) [B]Space/Reach:[/B] 15 ft./10 ft. [B]Special Attacks:[/B] Powerful charge, trample 2d12+15 [[I]DC28[/I]] [B]Special Qualities:[/B] Low-light vision, scent [B]Saves:[/B] Fort +19, Ref +9, Will +6 [B]Abilities:[/B] Str 30, Dex 9, Con 25, Int 1, Wis 12, Cha 7 [B]Skills:[/B] Listen +13, Spot +12 [B]Feats:[/B] Alertness, Endurance, Great Fortitude, Improved Bull Run, Power Attack, Run [B]Environment:[/B] Temperate plains [B]Organization:[/B] Solitary, pair, or herd (5–8) [B]Challenge Rating:[/B] 9 [B]Treasure:[/B] None [B]Alignment:[/B] Always neutral [B]Advancement:[/B] 17–24 HD (Huge); 25–32 HD (Gargantuan) [B]Level Adjustment:[/B] — A [I]Triceratops [/I]has a body about 25 feet long and weighs about 15,000 pounds. [B][SIZE=5]Combat[/SIZE][/B] These creatures are likely to charge and skewer any creature of at least Large size that infringes on their territory. A [I]Triceratops [/I]uses its trample attack on smaller opponents. [B]Powerful Charge (Ex):[/B] When a [I]Triceratops [/I]charges, its gore attack deals 4d8+20 points of damage. [B]Trample (Ex):[/B] Reflex half DC 28. The save DC is Strength-based. [COLOR=green][B][SIZE=5]Design Notes[/SIZE][/B] The [I]Triceratops[/I] is probably the most soundly designed of the SRD Dinosaurs. Its only significant problem is a very poor feat selection. The original monster had four Toughness feats, which adds little to the build's effectiveness. It also seems a bit too heavy for a Ceratopsian of that size. These stats can also be used for pretty much any Huge Ceratopsian, since their differences in habitat and head-ornamentation would not have changed their 3E D&D mechanics significantly. It's worth mentioning that many of these dinosaurs might not have used their horns to fight or lacked horns altogether, but all Ceratopsians would have had extremely powerful jaws and scissor-like rows of teeth capable of shearing through substantial branches. The "gore" might actually be with their jaws. It's worth mentioning that the SRD's [I]Triceratops[/I] has a Challenge Rating one higher than its [I]Tyrannosaurus[/I] (CR 9 vs 8), and this version retains that relationship. The [I]Triceratops[/I] isn't as tough as two Tyrannosaurs as the CRs would indicate, but it would certainly be the favourite in a one-on-one fight since it has a better AC, slightly more hit points and its Powerful Charge does more damage than a [I]Tyrannosaurus's[/I] bite. Personally I'd rather they have the same Challenge Rating to better stage the epic "carnosaur vs. ceratopsian" brawls from movies I have a fondness for, but that seemed outside the scope of the SRD Redux conversions. Later Cleon Special versions of these animals will likely be tweaked to the two combatants are more evenly matched. Oh, the [I]Triceratops'[/I] Trample attack is very effective against humanoid-size opponents, which might be the justification for its CR being higher than a [I]Tyrannosaurus[/I]. Challenge Ratings are intended as monsters-versus-PC metrics after all, not as rough guides to monster-versus-monster fights.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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