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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 4353357" data-attributes="member: 35909">Wizards are just as good as Clerics and Druids, the spell list is just plain better, and ultimately, that matters more than HD or armor.  Wildshape is only good because of Natural Spell.  All it does is let the Druid do melee combat or stealth better, possibly use for movement modes.  Spells can cover all of these areas already.   And the wildshape druid's either paying lots of money (wilding clasps), multicalssing out 2 levels (for wis to AC from Monk, Ninja, Swordsage, or Moon-warded Ranger), taking VoP (and thus losing a lot of item use flexibility), or has an overly generous DM (who thinks Monk's Belt gives you not only +1 AC but also wis bonus if you have no monk levels), or has a VERY poor AC.  Maybe they can take a high nat armor form, but then their touch AC is still crap, and in a spell duel, that's what's important.  What's more, Druid gets a lot of mage-on-mage staples like Greater Dispel Magic at a higher level.In terms of a straight on duel, I actually think Clerics are harder for Wizards to deal with at any given level, and even then it's a fairly equal match.If you just mean for versatility, and not some fantasized arena-style death match, sure.  Druid and Cleric have more built in, automatic versatility, but the wizard spell list is far more wide-ranging, allowing a prepared wizard to equal or exceed them in this department, too.Just IME, but i think you're over-reacting.</blockquote>

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