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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5571053" data-attributes="member: 61155">Yes and no. Epic battles are definitely a place where I would love to have vast and sprawling scenic battlefields - but I'm still gaming on the same physical table, with various books and character sheets cluttering up the sides. I think that's what they mean by saying the "table doesn't get any bigger" - the DM is still working with the same physical space for running combats, and bigger AoEs are definitely more effective.  Overall, I get why they reduced the potency of some of the big bursts. Turn Undead itself, as well, was problematic - it was basically a free encounter attack power, which no other class gets (aside from other Divine Channelers). Limited by only working against undead, the fact it was also more potent than most dailies and could be expanded to work against several other types of foes... meant something needed to be done.  I agree that some of the Errata may have gone too far - or, rather, they could have bolstered the Leader aspect of the Cleric while reducing the unintended Controller features. As it is, I think the Cleric is still perfectly playable, but I think they could have done a much better job with the decisions here overall.</blockquote>