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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7392288" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>This may be pretty far out there, but you could start painting Gruumsh to the cleric more as a racial god and less as an evil god.&nbsp; You could go two different ways with this.&nbsp; 1) you could rehabilitate orcs, rather like Star Trek did with Klingons, yes, they're savage and violent, but they have some core of ethics and morality, even if it's different and hard for humans to deal with, and the half-orc could come to terms with that, and also learn to be more accepting of his human side. 2) it's actually the cleric subtly turning evil, because some evil people don't really see themselves as evil, just as good people making tough choices and doing unpleasant things because the ends (justice for his orcish people who have been vilified and oppressed so long) justify the means (genocide of elves and enslaving other races - really, it's the elves that are the evil ones, and once the orcs have won they're rightful place they won't have to be savage/violent/ruthless anymore).</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7392288, member: 996"] This may be pretty far out there, but you could start painting Gruumsh to the cleric more as a racial god and less as an evil god. You could go two different ways with this. 1) you could rehabilitate orcs, rather like Star Trek did with Klingons, yes, they're savage and violent, but they have some core of ethics and morality, even if it's different and hard for humans to deal with, and the half-orc could come to terms with that, and also learn to be more accepting of his human side. 2) it's actually the cleric subtly turning evil, because some evil people don't really see themselves as evil, just as good people making tough choices and doing unpleasant things because the ends (justice for his orcish people who have been vilified and oppressed so long) justify the means (genocide of elves and enslaving other races - really, it's the elves that are the evil ones, and once the orcs have won they're rightful place they won't have to be savage/violent/ruthless anymore). [/QUOTE]

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