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Cleric powers' "ally can spend a healing surge"
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<blockquote data-quote="Yaezakura" data-source="post: 4275246" data-attributes="member: 52741"><p>You're really making this more complicated than it has to be.</p><p></p><p>Unless you're doing something that specifies otherwise, spending a healing surge heals you. Some things, like recharging a magic item, preforming a ritual, and the like, may require you to spend healing surges because doing these actions drains you of life energy.</p><p></p><p>Remember, 4E is an exceptions based game. There are rules, and other rules tell you when it's okay to break the rule. The rule is, spending a healing surge heals you--things like a Cleric's Healing Word do not say you get to break that rule. Things like Bloodcut Armor allow you to break that rule, because they specifically say so.</p><p></p><p>There's also the simple fact of requirements. An ally spending a Minor action on their turn to have you spend a healing surge <em>is not the same</em> as spending your own Standard action to spend a healing surge to recharge the item. The requirements for recharging are quite clear:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nowhere in that does it say someone else causing you to spend a healing surge can allow you to recharge those items, and thus, you cannot.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaezakura, post: 4275246, member: 52741"] You're really making this more complicated than it has to be. Unless you're doing something that specifies otherwise, spending a healing surge heals you. Some things, like recharging a magic item, preforming a ritual, and the like, may require you to spend healing surges because doing these actions drains you of life energy. Remember, 4E is an exceptions based game. There are rules, and other rules tell you when it's okay to break the rule. The rule is, spending a healing surge heals you--things like a Cleric's Healing Word do not say you get to break that rule. Things like Bloodcut Armor allow you to break that rule, because they specifically say so. There's also the simple fact of requirements. An ally spending a Minor action on their turn to have you spend a healing surge [I]is not the same[/I] as spending your own Standard action to spend a healing surge to recharge the item. The requirements for recharging are quite clear: Nowhere in that does it say someone else causing you to spend a healing surge can allow you to recharge those items, and thus, you cannot. [/QUOTE]
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