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<blockquote data-quote="Magus Coeruleus" data-source="post: 4275539" data-attributes="member: 1704">Spirit, flavor, etc. aside, it's already been nailed as to what clarifies the issue, and that is that Healing Word neither grants nor requires an action to/from the recipient of Healing Word.&nbsp; Therefore, even if in theory that healing surge could be used to recharge an item, the individual would not be in a position to use it because it requires a standard action from the prospective recharger when it is in fact the cleric's turn, not the recipient's turn.Just to seal this sucker even tighter, while it's true that the text does not explicitly say when you spend that surge, there is zero reason to believe that you could do so later, i.e. on your turn.&nbsp; If you could do that, it would mean that you could also choose to take your healing from Healing Word whenever you like after the cleric casts it, e.g. to reserve it until you are damaged enough to need it in a future round.&nbsp; If you think that idea is ludicrous then it likewise makes no sense to let someone recharge a magic item via Healing Word later when you have actions available.Again, when Healing Word is cast it is not your turn and you have no standard action to apply toward recharging an item.&nbsp; Ok, I thought of yet another possible &quot;yeah but,&quot; i.e. what if you ready your standard action to recharge as soon as Healing Word is cast?&nbsp; Nope, because you ready to either do it just before or after (ready rules specify this).&nbsp; At the instant Healing Word is cast, you may spend a healing surge, but you have no action at that instant.&nbsp; Your readying would-be-recharge comes too early or too late.Argh, ok you might try to argue that at least the person using Healing Word (a minor action) could use it on themselves when they have a standard action still available on that turn to recharge, but I'm done.&nbsp; Phew!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Magus Coeruleus, post: 4275539, member: 1704"] Spirit, flavor, etc. aside, it's already been nailed as to what clarifies the issue, and that is that Healing Word neither grants nor requires an action to/from the recipient of Healing Word. Therefore, even if in theory that healing surge could be used to recharge an item, the individual would not be in a position to use it because it requires a standard action from the prospective recharger when it is in fact the cleric's turn, not the recipient's turn. Just to seal this sucker even tighter, while it's true that the text does not explicitly say when you spend that surge, there is zero reason to believe that you could do so later, i.e. on your turn. If you could do that, it would mean that you could also choose to take your healing from Healing Word whenever you like after the cleric casts it, e.g. to reserve it until you are damaged enough to need it in a future round. If you think that idea is ludicrous then it likewise makes no sense to let someone recharge a magic item via Healing Word later when you have actions available. Again, when Healing Word is cast it is not your turn and you have no standard action to apply toward recharging an item. Ok, I thought of yet another possible "yeah but," i.e. what if you ready your standard action to recharge as soon as Healing Word is cast? Nope, because you ready to either do it just before or after (ready rules specify this). At the instant Healing Word is cast, you may spend a healing surge, but you have no action at that instant. Your readying would-be-recharge comes too early or too late. Argh, ok you might try to argue that at least the person using Healing Word (a minor action) could use it on themselves when they have a standard action still available on that turn to recharge, but I'm done. Phew! [/QUOTE]

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