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<blockquote data-quote="eprieur" data-source="post: 6039552" data-attributes="member: 81191">Even though I think the cleric change absolutly suck in this packet overall, the main thing about the healer cleric is this:Disciple of Life: You get to heal 2+the spell level (doesn't work on the level 0 one). This is the main thing that make the healer cleric a better healer. Once you have that you pick the lvl 3/9 feats that let you heal more per day.Domain spells don't matter since you will be casting heals anyway unless you choose to suck.The laser cleric feel simply badly designed. When he cast a heal spell he cannot attack unless he also pick strenght or dex as a secondary stat. Or he can do low level borderline broken stuff like go into a room full of goblins, cast command on the boss and instantly kill all the goblins in a 10 feet radius from him (they take 3 damage). Protector is worthless, trickster could be cool, the 'Dex cleric' you pick another skill and can have fun with your illusion. You can still cast heal and attack with a short bow for 1D8 + dex if you are an elf (can't use longbow it seem).Lastly the warbringer get access to heavy weapons, so you can attack with a battle axe for 1D10 or a greataxe for 2D6 if you are a dwarf and do decent damage while you cast your healing spells. You don't really need wisdom at all since healing does'nt require it and you will only be casting those anyway. You can concentrate on strenght/consti like real man do and be the poor man fighter (that can cast heal).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="eprieur, post: 6039552, member: 81191"] Even though I think the cleric change absolutly suck in this packet overall, the main thing about the healer cleric is this: Disciple of Life: You get to heal 2+the spell level (doesn't work on the level 0 one). This is the main thing that make the healer cleric a better healer. Once you have that you pick the lvl 3/9 feats that let you heal more per day. Domain spells don't matter since you will be casting heals anyway unless you choose to suck. The laser cleric feel simply badly designed. When he cast a heal spell he cannot attack unless he also pick strenght or dex as a secondary stat. Or he can do low level borderline broken stuff like go into a room full of goblins, cast command on the boss and instantly kill all the goblins in a 10 feet radius from him (they take 3 damage). Protector is worthless, trickster could be cool, the 'Dex cleric' you pick another skill and can have fun with your illusion. You can still cast heal and attack with a short bow for 1D8 + dex if you are an elf (can't use longbow it seem). Lastly the warbringer get access to heavy weapons, so you can attack with a battle axe for 1D10 or a greataxe for 2D6 if you are a dwarf and do decent damage while you cast your healing spells. You don't really need wisdom at all since healing does'nt require it and you will only be casting those anyway. You can concentrate on strenght/consti like real man do and be the poor man fighter (that can cast heal). [/QUOTE]

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