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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 837765" data-attributes="member: 4134">No, a bonus in STR is much better than a penalty (after all, halflings get -2 STR and noone complains). Fact is that you can downplay your penalty and emphasize your bonus. The halforc barbarian will have not much need of INT or CHA, but will gain much from high STR (he also can put a 12 in both and come out even).A halfling can downplay that low STR by taking finesse, shooting with ranged weapons (maybe even the crossbow) and depending on sneak attack for damage. It still hurts him, but his dex evens it out.But, if you give a race +2 WIS and +2 CHA, they get much more than they lose with -2 STR.Better, but it isn't so extreme.They have one bonus that helps them with their skills. But would they still be balanced if they also got +2 Int?He would be better at being a spell-oriented cleric with wis alone. Give him CHA on top of that and it's to good without level adjustment.Not with two bonuses and only one penalty</blockquote>