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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 838376" data-attributes="member: 892">"two bad scores"  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I guess this is where we disagree.  I think that a bonus/penalty in a strength is about the same as a bonus/penalty in two mental scores.  But that is just me (and most Kalamar fans).  Others may differ.  I don't think that the extra CHR is going to "break" the forest gnome spell-casting cleric, since while CHR is handy for some things (undead, some skills), it is WIS that drives the cleric.  I do know that halfings and gnomes do have to be very careful with encumbrance, because of the double whammy of strength and size penalties on how much they can carry.  But this may not be important in some campaigns.But then, if we are only talking about differences of opinion, then I suppose it would be up to the individual DM as to what races to allow or not allow.  No one has to allow a D&D Forest Gnome.  For that matter, no one has to allow a D&D Elf, Halfling, Gnome, Dwarf, Half-Elf or Half-Orc.   But as far as the rules go, the Forest Gnome is a legal D&D race, since Kenzerco is allowed to slap the D&D logo on their Kalamar products, in addition to the d20 logo.  So I respect that you believe it to be overpowered, but it is written with the bonuses and penalties as listed in an official D&D product.  Since this is the Rules forum, and since the original poster wanted to know about possible D&D races (before settling on human), I decided to share it.  Whether the original poster's DM would allow such a race is of course up to that DM.  Unless you are the original poster's DM, I assume that what you would allow and would not allow would have little bearing on the other DM's decision, just as what I would allow and would not allow would have little bearing on the other DM's decision.Peace out!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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