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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wolfwood2" data-source="post: 2845906" data-attributes="member: 39394">I think it's perfectly possible that some divine spellcasting individuals will be outcast.  I think you'll really have to stretch to say that all clerics are automatically going to be outcast.One big issue is that the 'regular' priests are not immune to allure of a guy who has a direct pipeline to the gods.  It may be a threat to their power, but the reason it's a threat to their power (the masses will listen to the spellcasting guy) also affects them (they too are going to be tempted to listen to the spellcasting guy).  More likely the 'regular' priests are going to attempt to co-op the spellcasting cleric into their existing power structure and work with him, not against him.No part of the cleric class implies getting regular divine visions or direct instructions from the god(s).  You have to go to a few specific spells, mostly higher level, for that.  So given that, unless the cleric is personally opposed to some huge aspects of the church's doctrine, I don't see why they wouldn't alllow themselves to be co-opted.Of course, a lot of this is very world specific.  How active/remote are the gods?  How powerful are churches and how well-organized are they?  Do clerics get their power from gods, or do they get their power from their faith in gods?  (A very significant difference, I think.)</blockquote>