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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Orius" data-source="post: 4785493" data-attributes="member: 8863">Well, it does introduce a disadvantage to the cleric.  If you're just using the main PHB/SRD spells, there's little reason to bother with this variant.However, I have been considering for quite a while the idea of a prayerbook for clerics as a means of introducing less common spells.  This goes back in large part to the 2e Priest's Spell Compendium which had a very large number of spells and added in a spell rarity system like the Wizard's Compendium.  I've been thinking of adding prayerbooks to the campaign as a way of controlling the use of non-common spells (essentially everything outside the PHB/SRD), since allowing the cleric to memorize ANY cleric spell is a bit unbalancing compared to the way a wizard gets spells.  CoDzilla's bad enough with just core.  Part of this would be having deity specific spells/prayers, and maybe having different orders within a faith that have their own subset of spells/prayers.My idea was somthing like they all have a basic prayerbook that has the proper devotions to receive any PHB/SRD spell.  Other spells they have to find the prayer for at various shrines, temples, abbeys, or whatever, much in the same way a wizard uses libraries.  So maybe something like a spell from Complete Divine which is relatively common is known to an order within the church and the cleric needs to join the order or at least visit one of their churches to learn it.  A rare spell might only be found in a single monastery.  The prayers shouldn't be as difficult to replace as a spellbook though, because while a spellbook represents a wizard's personal knowledge, the prayers and devotions a cleric goes though to gain spells are part of a broader religious tradition.  Making domain and spontaneous spells free is a good idea I hadn't considered.I'm specifically using the term prayerbook here because conceptually, they not using the book as a set of notes to mentally prepare magic, but they're praying to their god for various miracles.  They shouldn't do it exactly the same way as a wizard.Another problem I've have with the idea is just what to do with druids.  Druids should have something similar if clerics do for balance. Books don't really seem to fit into druid flavor though.  There've been a few good ideas already.And because you created this thread, I can just easily glom onto it here instead of making a new one. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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