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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kraydak" data-source="post: 5938239" data-attributes="member: 12306">Pre UA?  You only picked up a fighter as a PC if it was a new PC, entering an established (mid-high level) party, and he came in at the same level as the previous PCs.  By 7th level (extra attacks, and a respectable THAC0 advantage, and decent-to-good saves) pre-UA fighters could more-or-less hold their own.Post UA?  Fighters were the only people with any (and I mean any) purpose in melee/ranged combat other than soaking damage.  With the modest exception of very high level, well equipped thieves (at the X5 backstab multiplier level, dual-wielding, you could gank a surprising amount of stuff).I think most people on this board simply do not understand how overwhelming the 1e (post UA)/2e's offensive advantage actually was, nor that by the upper levels Fighters were the best character defensively, across the board (saves, AC, hp, you name it).  And they *still* were considered an inferior class.</blockquote>