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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 2687078" data-attributes="member: 707"><p>I have a PC paladin who has access to cleric spells at -2 levels to his own. He's currently 12th-level (almost 13th) so that means 5th, soon to be 6th-level spells. I originally wanted to use these primary as buffing spells, with a few support spells thrown in, but I'm finding that in actuality, many clerical buffs aren't useful to a PC with a full BAB. Spells such as <em>Righteous Might</em> and <em>Divine Power</em> grant a true cleric +5 to their BAB, but nothing to a PC that already <em>has</em> a full BAB.</p><p></p><p>Thus far, I've found <em>Quickened Divine Favor</em> and <em>Fire Shield</em> (Sun domain) to be the most beneficial spells for him.</p><p></p><p>My question is, are there any other melee buff spells I'm overlooking? My PC is a frontline fighter, so he doesn't have time to buff for more than one round (at the most) before engaging the foe, so I don't see any unbalancing coming from him stacking on a ton of buff spells. But I <em>would</em> like to have some options for 2nd-, 3rd-, and 6th- level buff spells, so that he can get some use out of those spell levels over the course of a long day of adventuring.</p><p></p><p>The PC has access to Quicken spell (hence the <em>Quickened Divine Favor</em>,) but there don't seem to be any good 2nd-level buffs to fill a 6th-level slot. (He already has items buffing strength and con, and doesn't really use dex...)</p><p></p><p>Any suggestions would be great.</p><p></p><p>Also, how do most DMs feel about clerical spell research? I'm wondering whether it might not be possible to pay some gold and research a few holy scriptures on my own, to fill the gaps in my spell usage in a balanced, legitimate way.</p><p></p><p>Thoughts?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 2687078, member: 707"] I have a PC paladin who has access to cleric spells at -2 levels to his own. He's currently 12th-level (almost 13th) so that means 5th, soon to be 6th-level spells. I originally wanted to use these primary as buffing spells, with a few support spells thrown in, but I'm finding that in actuality, many clerical buffs aren't useful to a PC with a full BAB. Spells such as [i]Righteous Might[/i] and [i]Divine Power[/i] grant a true cleric +5 to their BAB, but nothing to a PC that already [i]has[/i] a full BAB. Thus far, I've found [i]Quickened Divine Favor[/i] and [i]Fire Shield[/i] (Sun domain) to be the most beneficial spells for him. My question is, are there any other melee buff spells I'm overlooking? My PC is a frontline fighter, so he doesn't have time to buff for more than one round (at the most) before engaging the foe, so I don't see any unbalancing coming from him stacking on a ton of buff spells. But I [i]would[/i] like to have some options for 2nd-, 3rd-, and 6th- level buff spells, so that he can get some use out of those spell levels over the course of a long day of adventuring. The PC has access to Quicken spell (hence the [i]Quickened Divine Favor[/i],) but there don't seem to be any good 2nd-level buffs to fill a 6th-level slot. (He already has items buffing strength and con, and doesn't really use dex...) Any suggestions would be great. Also, how do most DMs feel about clerical spell research? I'm wondering whether it might not be possible to pay some gold and research a few holy scriptures on my own, to fill the gaps in my spell usage in a balanced, legitimate way. Thoughts? [/QUOTE]
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