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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 9425768" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>I'm seeking some clarification on the rules for using 2014 cleric domains with the 2024 cleric. I know there is a sidebar on it, but I'm curious if it addresses this.</p><p></p><p>In 2024, a cleric is given a choice of either full martial weapons and heavy armor OR a bonus cantrip a bonus on religion checks. This is supposed to replace the feature where cleric domains gave bonus proficiencies at first level. The issue though is that there are a lot of official domains that granted things different than those two elements. For example: the Arcana domain granted two wizard cantrips, the order domain granted heavy armor AND a skill proficiency, and the Nature domain granted a druid cantrip and a skill proficiency. Does the sidebar address what happens in those situations? It seems easy to strip the bonus weapon proficiencies from Tempest or Twilight, but it seems less fun to have the Forge domain no longer grant smith tools. On the other hand, it would stack with Divine Order, which would mean that a character taking the Nature Domain (free druid cantrip and a nature skill) still gets Divine Order and gets a better deal than a tempest cleric (who lost his free weapon and armor prof) which Divine Order replaces. </p><p></p><p>Anyone got any thoughts on what do in this situation. I don't want any rants about backwards compatibility, but I'm interested in ideas or solutions for squaring this particular circle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 9425768, member: 7635"] I'm seeking some clarification on the rules for using 2014 cleric domains with the 2024 cleric. I know there is a sidebar on it, but I'm curious if it addresses this. In 2024, a cleric is given a choice of either full martial weapons and heavy armor OR a bonus cantrip a bonus on religion checks. This is supposed to replace the feature where cleric domains gave bonus proficiencies at first level. The issue though is that there are a lot of official domains that granted things different than those two elements. For example: the Arcana domain granted two wizard cantrips, the order domain granted heavy armor AND a skill proficiency, and the Nature domain granted a druid cantrip and a skill proficiency. Does the sidebar address what happens in those situations? It seems easy to strip the bonus weapon proficiencies from Tempest or Twilight, but it seems less fun to have the Forge domain no longer grant smith tools. On the other hand, it would stack with Divine Order, which would mean that a character taking the Nature Domain (free druid cantrip and a nature skill) still gets Divine Order and gets a better deal than a tempest cleric (who lost his free weapon and armor prof) which Divine Order replaces. Anyone got any thoughts on what do in this situation. I don't want any rants about backwards compatibility, but I'm interested in ideas or solutions for squaring this particular circle. [/QUOTE]
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