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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arch-Fiend" data-source="post: 7842948" data-attributes="member: 7016641">so really the idea i have for this is not a question of making sense, in many ways based on particularities of the given relationship between god and servant (this would often not work between particularly individualistic deities) then this may not occur, but i did state this as an option rather than a requirement.but here's my reasoning. a cleric is a servant of a god, a clerics life's purpose is to try and understand their god's philosophy and nature better with no endpoint to what the idea of "better" can be, servitude and understanding. my argument is that in many cases a cleric going down this path will likely be so much like their deity by the point that they reach godlike power in mortal form that the 2 will barely be distinguishable and as far as the religion on the material plane is concerned this cleric is literally so close to a god with so much influence over the religion their word is basically that of the word's of their god, and if they dont disagree with their god (which they likely wont if they are playing their cleric as a servant of the best understood philosophy of the religion) then none of the material plane have any reason not to imagine this cleric as their god on earth.furthermore my concept comes partly from some of the ideas passed around in planescape about the fate of petitioners (dead npcs faithful to the gods who exist in the god's outerplanar realms) who grow in power slowly over time as they begin to slowly understand more the philosophy of their deity until a point they are absorbed into the divine realm and into the essence of the god.my idea is a bit of a flip side of this coin, for the cleric on the path to godhood (because the party is) they are becoming as much like their god in mortal form as possible, furthermore they are growing in power directly from that god, past level 20 were talking about epic power (if your playing a setting that goes past 20) and that epic power is tantamount to the power of very powerful avatars of the gods. i simply think at some point theres absolutely no reason for them and the god to not simply just become one and the same, from the gods perspective their servant basically is them as they rise in power become closer and closer to the gods right hand until no plot the god has is without their involvement. for the cleric they are becoming closer and closer to the enlightened philosophy of their deity, when we are on the boundry of godhood for this character distinguishing between the 2 is going to be very difficult from an inward looking outward perspective.and ultimately this is just to serve the gm being able to come up with an acquitted solution to the problem of clerical divine ascent, if another alternative exists that is preferred then all the options rest at your disposal, this is just one i found interesting especially if you do decide to run a ascended campaign.</blockquote>

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