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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tectuktitlay" data-source="post: 6859146" data-attributes="member: 82812">I agree with you entirely. Charisma makes a lot of sense for both Clerics and Warlocks. In fact, in many ways Warlocks are essentially arcane versions of Clerics. Both are building a rapport with, and/or serving a powerful being far beyond themselves, and trying to convince said being to further the ends of the Cleric or Warlock, often by either smooth-talking that they are trying to, or genuinely trying to, further the powerful being's goals with their actions. Sorcerers, on the other hand, never made sense to run off Charisma, in my opinion. Sorcerers, and probably Psychics (Mystics, whatever <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />) should run off of Wisdom. The way I've always seen the stats in D&D is as follows: Intelligence is the raw ability to compute, to reason, to take all of the information one assimilates from the world and organize it, make sense of the patterns. Wisdom is the ability to take the plethora of information one gains, and to most efficiently utilize it, playing to the strengths one possesses. This not only covers perceptiveness and intuition, but willpower; willpower is using your own mental resources as efficiently as possible, bringing the maximum offensive and defensive use of each thought in as small an amount of time as possible. A wise person knows when and how to use their intelligence and their charisma, and more importantly when not to. Both of these, to me, speak to raw strength of will. Charisma is the ability to take your strengths, and best influence others with them. Some charismatic people know how to use their looks. Others their words. Others, their lack of words; the dark, quiet, mysterious stranger who immediately grabs everyone's rapt attention the rare times they speak is very adept at using their charisma! Regardless, Charisma is directly influencing others with your actions in a manner that achieves what you wish to achieve. To me, the inward power and strength of will that sorcerers, born with their power and having to learn to hone these potent innate abilities through strength of will and intuitive efficiency reeks of Wisdom, not Charisma. I can see the argument for psionic characters using intellect, meticulously honing their skills. I would likely have a split, where the learned psionic characters use Intelligence, while the wild talents, those born with immense psionic potential who learn how to use it on their own, use Wisdom instead. But yes, I 100% agree with you. Charisma makes a whole helluva lot more sense for Clerics than Wisdom.</blockquote>

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