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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6860088" data-attributes="member: 4937">I'm agnostic regarding that statement.  I can see value in challenging authority and testing your assumptions.  I can also see that there might be times when you need to accept that other people are probably smarter than you, or know more than you do, and you should accept what they say.  I certainly don't agree that always challenging authority is going to lead you to Truth, nor for that matter am I convinced that challenging one authority is usually anything more than blindly accepting another authority.  I am certainly not convinced questioning authority is proof of wisdom.  I can point you to sections of youtube were there are communities of like minded rebels who are continually challenging authority and questioning preconceived notions about reality, and quite proud of their challenge to the orthodoxy, but which I think both of us will agree are not wise.  Wisdom is not found in one behavior or the other.  Wisdom is simply knowing what is true.  Challenging what is true is vanity.  Not questioning what is false is ignorance.  Only wisdom can inform you when to challenge authority, and when to accept ti.  But I don't really care how you get there, as long as you get there.Frankly, yes you did: twice.Wisdom is fundamentally about emotional maturity and the application of reason, which has little to do with piety and is the antithesis of dogmaOrganized religion (regardless of its truth or lack of) is largely based on authorityPiety and organized religion were the subjects you were commenting on, and quite clearly were referencing attributes you believed were true of real world religion - hence the source of your cognitive dissonance regarding D&D's fictional religions.  The whole basis of your argument is based on defining what the attributes of real world religious belief are.And to put a fine point on it, but if you are actually a pious sincere actively worshiping and attending believer with a notable respect for piety in others, I'll be happy to apologize.  Otherwise, I think it would be reasonable to concede that I had you well and truly pegged.</blockquote>

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