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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tectuktitlay" data-source="post: 6860119" data-attributes="member: 82812">No, I quite purposefully clarified that it is sometimes also called blind faith. Generally by those without that form of faith. A statement that is true, as the use of that term is one that is used to separate religious faith from generic faith, just like preceding "theory" with "scientific" accomplishes. Yes, it actually does. You personally belief in God, that's wonderful. Really, rock on, I have zero problems with your beliefs. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Do you have verifiable, falsifiable, testable evidence for your God? Would you believe in gravity if all you had to go on was anecdote, or personal experiences? Not believing that you will fall to the ground if above it, a generic use of the term gravity, but the actual scientific theory of gravity? Because there is a difference between the two. There is, in fact, a definitional difference between the generic term faith, and spiritual faith, and the latter explicitly is the "firm belief in something for which there is no proof", or "based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof". That's the actual definition, right out of Merriam's or Oxford, respectively. And look, see, the thing is...it's ok to have spiritual faith, and I am in no way, shape, or form saying anyone with spiritual faith is wrong to have that form of faith.Also, you're doing it again. Painting with broad strokes and assuming. Guess what? I was raised deeply religious, and had religious faith for much of the earlier part of my life. I grew into losing that faith, that doesn't mean I don't quite clearly remember exactly how it felt and what I thought regarding spiritual faith when I was younger. I do. And yes, you're right people with spiritual faith don't generally refer to it as blind faith. So? People with a scientific background also don't generally refer to a theory as they mean it as a scientific theory, because it's understood what kind of theory they mean when speaking to other scientists. But to people outside that world, it is helpful to clarify by preceding it with "scientific". That isn't othering, either. Sorry, this is not productive. I am done here, this is being pushed off-topic too much, and seeing straw men built up and knocked down, or equivocation of terms being continued when I am explicitly defining terms to avoid that exact occurrence, is overly prevalent.</blockquote>

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