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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 6860196" data-attributes="member: 6802951"><p>You are choosing to infer something that you personally find self-evident, but many people do not. As has been pointed out a couple of times, there is no particular reason why a cleric should be proselytizing (that is what priests are for), or why their ability to bring in converts makes them more trusted to use divine power responsibly.</p><p></p><p>There are a few cases (such as where godly power is derived from number of worshippers) where ability to proselytize is important. That is a different case from the custody of a god's divine power however. You seem to have an issue with the relationship between a priest's popularity and position within a church, and the power of a cleric's spells.</p><p>Bear in mind that many priests within a D&D church aren't clerics. They aren't even spellcasters. It doesn't mean that the church and god doesn't value them - just that they don't have the mandate for channelling the god's power as spells. </p><p></p><p> Knowledge: Religion would be knowing a lot about the history, practices, enemies of many different faiths, with a bit of planar lore thrown in as well. Being good at knowing that seems like something Intelligence would determine. Being good at that doesn't strike me as something that would determine the power behind your god's spells that you channel though.</p><p></p><p>As to perceiving things, I generally look upon it as wisdom being not the ability to see something, but the ability to recognise something that you do see as amiss or worthy of notice and attention.</p><p></p><p> There were a bunch of logical leaps and fallacies, that may be due to a misunderstanding of the popular view of RL religion compared to the D&D religions. However that doesn't mean that it was the OP's intention to start a debate regarding actual RL beliefs. Bear in mind that these are international boards, and so people might use emotionally-loaded terms without fully understanding their effect.</p><p>If nothing else, be charitable, and assume that the post was made in good faith, and treat it as such. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/angel.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":angel:" title="Angel :angel:" data-shortname=":angel:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 6860196, member: 6802951"] You are choosing to infer something that you personally find self-evident, but many people do not. As has been pointed out a couple of times, there is no particular reason why a cleric should be proselytizing (that is what priests are for), or why their ability to bring in converts makes them more trusted to use divine power responsibly. There are a few cases (such as where godly power is derived from number of worshippers) where ability to proselytize is important. That is a different case from the custody of a god's divine power however. You seem to have an issue with the relationship between a priest's popularity and position within a church, and the power of a cleric's spells. Bear in mind that many priests within a D&D church aren't clerics. They aren't even spellcasters. It doesn't mean that the church and god doesn't value them - just that they don't have the mandate for channelling the god's power as spells. Knowledge: Religion would be knowing a lot about the history, practices, enemies of many different faiths, with a bit of planar lore thrown in as well. Being good at knowing that seems like something Intelligence would determine. Being good at that doesn't strike me as something that would determine the power behind your god's spells that you channel though. As to perceiving things, I generally look upon it as wisdom being not the ability to see something, but the ability to recognise something that you do see as amiss or worthy of notice and attention. There were a bunch of logical leaps and fallacies, that may be due to a misunderstanding of the popular view of RL religion compared to the D&D religions. However that doesn't mean that it was the OP's intention to start a debate regarding actual RL beliefs. Bear in mind that these are international boards, and so people might use emotionally-loaded terms without fully understanding their effect. If nothing else, be charitable, and assume that the post was made in good faith, and treat it as such. :angel: [/QUOTE]
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