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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Einlanzer0" data-source="post: 6860395" data-attributes="member: 6788934">I don't really have to imagine it. It's explicitly stated in various places that adventuring clerics are normally trying to spread the faith of their deities to other people, as this is how deities grow in power. Although, I will admit that times have changed and there is now a bit more ambiguity with regard to what might be motivating a cleric to be an adventurer, which serves as the only legitimate counter-argument to my original post. I actually studied religion, so your persistent condescending assumptions are getting tired. Of course real world religions are varied, but religion is not spread through esoteric knowledge, it's spread through authority. This is in part why the Gnostics remain a very small sect.Yes, and the (original) D&D cleric is not modeled from any of those concepts; they are modeled almost entirely from crusaders of medieval Christianity. Here again you are relying on a strawman of my original post to construct something resembling a point. Please identify where I implied that I thought all faith-based magic users should use Charisma instead of Wisdom. Here's a hint: I didn't, you just extrapolated it from your own biases and an apparent desire to feel personally slighted.</blockquote>