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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6861693" data-attributes="member: 42582">I don't follow this. How are genre films and myths of warrior-priests, and popular culture images of knights of the round table, different from the picture presented by St Bernard? They're not - they all emphasis crusading warriors who are ready to kill, and to die, for their ideals. And who, in virtue of this, are exemplars for everyone else.The archetype is not unclear. What is unclear, though - at least to me - is what this archetype has to do with wisdom. Whereas it is quite clear to me what it has to do with charisma, and hence it's quite clear to me why the classic paladin required a high CHA.If a character has been chosen for a higher calling, and is an unwilling conduit, then what does intuition, or an intuitive sense of a deity's wishes, have to do with it?If CHA is about "PR", then why do paladins need CHA? (And have needed it ever since their inception.)CHA is about personality (in the Basic rules, "force of personality" is the phrase used). Personality is not solely about, I think not even primarily about, PR or preaching. It's about magnetism, impressions, and - in the clerical context - being exemplary, and being seen by others as such.I'm not sure I entirely agree with your picture of CHA, but I certainly agree with your first paragraph.To put it another way: does it make more sense for warrior priests to be able to intimidate their enemies and persuade their allies? Or to be able to notice ambushes and intuit the behaviour of animals? It's not obvious to me that the second makes more sense than the first.</blockquote>

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