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<blockquote data-quote="papastebu" data-source="post: 3495298" data-attributes="member: 40894">Thanks. If the clerics just went and ticked off their benefactors without ever trying to appease them, they wouldn't last long. Aside from that, powers would be really hard to use with a DC of 100 or so.Exactly.&quot;Free-use&quot; allotment is cleric's class level plus Charisma modifier. After that, it's the brood rating of the deity +1 for each power of any sort use, except for true interventions. See the OP quotes area.DC=deity's brood + #of requests made, +/- x for holy/unholy place/person, etc.Are you saying &quot;To gain favor?&quot; That's right, if so. The problem I have with this is that it has the potential of making some very powerful things happen easily, and quickly. I think sticking with -1 per &quot;favor-mongering&quot; prayer is the right idea. That way the ease of use doesn't happen too fast.&nbsp;The idea is right, here, except that the level of an effect isn't relevent. A deity can do just about anything within his area of power. The domain powers are leveled, but only so far as they gain efficacy. A request for strength of will to resist a spell might have more effect when the cleric is third level than when she was first, but not because of anything she did, except be steadfast in her service to her god. The power all comes from the Higher Power. The thing that's going to make it more difficult to use is the deity's mood, specifically, toward her.I have always thought of turning as a granted power activated by prayer. Take a look at my EDITs in the OP. I'm pretty sure that's how I want to handle it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="papastebu, post: 3495298, member: 40894"] Thanks. If the clerics just went and ticked off their benefactors without ever trying to appease them, they wouldn't last long. Aside from that, powers would be really hard to use with a DC of 100 or so. Exactly. "Free-use" allotment is cleric's class level plus Charisma modifier. After that, it's the brood rating of the deity +1 for each power of any sort use, except for true interventions. See the OP quotes area. DC=deity's brood + #of requests made, +/- x for holy/unholy place/person, etc. Are you saying "To gain favor?" That's right, if so. The problem I have with this is that it has the potential of making some very powerful things happen easily, and [I]quickly[/I]. I think sticking with -1 per "favor-mongering" prayer is the right idea. That way the ease of use doesn't happen too fast. The idea is right, here, except that the level of an effect isn't relevent. A deity can do just about anything within his area of power. The domain powers are leveled, but only so far as they gain efficacy. A request for strength of will to resist a spell might have more effect when the cleric is third level than when she was first, but not because of anything she did, except be steadfast in her service to her god. The power all comes from the Higher Power. The thing that's going to make it more difficult to use is the deity's mood, specifically, toward her. I have always thought of turning as a granted power activated by prayer. Take a look at my EDITs in the OP. I'm pretty sure that's how I want to handle it. [/QUOTE]

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