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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyaricus" data-source="post: 2507301" data-attributes="member: 35678">I have a campaign of my own design (a low magic one, for those who care; and btw jester, i think you campaign sounds brilliant man, just brilliant > i read your other post), and for the moment, i am using the PHB cleric (named priest, because the cleric name makes no sense whatsoever) and druid classes as stated, much to my dismay. I am working on creating monsters, adventures, areas and people that my guys can meet and interact with (on top of the fact that that is one out of two campaign that i run, the other being in the Realms, so for actualy gameplay, i am just going as is. The main problem with the cleric is that it tries to be a "holy warrior" (more holy though) and then the Paladin is the other side of the coin, but he is more warrior. what i am planning to implement is having my Priest be, essentually, a divine "mage" in terms of spells. that is his forte. he still gets a d8 HD, has bad BAB, as for Saves, i have an interesting system. Will is always good, but depending on his gods' portfolio, his reflex or fort could be the other good save. if the deities portfolio doesnt apply to fort of ref (say, a deity of peace) then the Priest gains Iron will as a bonus feat at first level. for a class skill list, he has the following: Concentration, Craft, Decipher Script, Diplomacy (called Persuade in my campaign), Heal, Knowledge (all sub-skills, called Lore in my campaign), Profession, Sense Motive and Spellcraft. he gets (4+int mod)x4 at first, and 4 + int mod after that. As for class abilities, i am thinking a list of bonus feats be in order (1st, 6th, 11th, 16th, specific feats have not been decided, but for low-magic, see Jesters commentary before) and furhtermore, in my campaign, its low magic, adn so the Turn Rebuke Undead may also affect Demons/Devils/Fiends (if you are good) or Angels/celestials (if you are evil). for Low Magic, that is balanced, because at higher levels, you are more likely going to faceing magical beasts/giants, etc rather than evil invaders from Hell (and besides, arent Priests already attributed with the banishing of evil via excorcism? this kinda brushes over the fine details of excorceis itself, but i have yet to find time to get into excorsim in my campaign. so, theres my Priest, a non-combatant whos spells (of which are already greater in number per day than the wizard, fantasys premier spellcaster) and skills help him out alot. btw, i think the idea of spontaneous spellcating for Priests and Druid be appropriate. they are calling for divine intervention, and since his god will have "just the right spell" to help him out, it makes sense, from a non-gameplay veiw, and wont affect gameplay too much. my comments on the druid are coming next . . . . --------btw how do you get those messages at the bottom of you screen? i am sure that it is an automated process, because who is going to spend the time hyperlinking it all, etc, adn remember to put it at the end of each post. thank you for any feedback.</blockquote>

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