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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 1622620" data-attributes="member: 545">I agree with Shin.I am playing in a G-series campaign converted over to 3.5.  Even though we have a pretty good idea when and where the violence will occur, even though we are on the offensive and using hit & run tactics so we only expect 1 or 2 big fights per day, even though the battles occur more on our terms than our opponent's, actually employing these super buff super short spells is not an easy task. It is a matter of 'marginal utility'.  Is tbuffing myself for a round or two while my friends are getting pounded more effective than buffing up my friends or laying into the enemy with the Flame Strike (or whatever)?   The answer is usually no.If the answer is no in your campaign, then the power level of these two spells is entirely academic.As for the power level of the cleric, I think the class is markedly better than any other class.  Its weakness, such as it is, is the cleric is less flashy than any other class.  My observations of RPG player nature indicates that the thrill of playing a flashy PC tends to be high on the list of desirables.  Very high.  So while the cleric may be mechanically "too powerful", this does not seem to detrimentally affect player enjoyment.</blockquote>