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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 6873418" data-attributes="member: 12731">Speak for yourself <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I happen to think full caster progression is MUCH more fun, useful and valuable than d20 bardic abilities. Being forced into the "classic" trope works in a scenario that's hewing close to the stereotypical medieval fantasy world, with taverns and castles and what not. In many other scenarios, you simply need to shut the frack up and be a deadly murderhobo just like everyone else in your party!The complete reliance on verbal and somatic components was simply too much. I much prefer to leave the choice of being a "traditional" bard (the singing, playing and dancing bard) up to the player. And in 5th edition, you actually CAN play a bard even if you find that stereotype a bit silly.The Bard spell list might be a tad limited, but that's okay since bards can pick at least two fave spells from elsewhere.Of course, the reason the d20 bard sucked wasn't the bardic songs fault.</blockquote>