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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 6635929" data-attributes="member: 5100">In the spirit of "rulings over rules", I usually cut Clerics quite a bit of slack on this one. An arcane caster is actually intricately shaping the fabric of reality through demanding laws with little room for error. A cleric is basically just painting a target for an airstrike; you can do that as easily while holding a mace as with an open hand. Any flourishes (including the holy symbol) are show to let the bad guys know that it's freaking Pelor who smote them clean to Hell and/or to inspire onlookers to respect his righteous might.In a world like Eberron, where clerical magic may as well be just a different discipline of arcana taught only at temples, you might want to apply the same structure as with arcane magic. Depends on the flavor you want to evoke.Also worth noting: I have never had a Cleric played with the daunting efficacy that some folks have. Through every group and every edition, I've only had one player who actually liked Clerics and he plays them in a very heavy support role (even in 5E with Heavy Armor Mastery, he's a second line fighter). I have no cause or desire to police the Cleric's power level. YMMV.</blockquote>