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<blockquote data-quote="Emirikol" data-source="post: 2915758" data-attributes="member: 10638">Likes:&nbsp; *&nbsp; That they are the most tailorable class in the game outside the fighter.&nbsp; *&nbsp; They are a priest and a holy warrior combined into one easy, playable class.&nbsp; If broken into two classes, neither would be generic enough for fun.*&nbsp; They're crunchy in dragons' mouths when they run out to save someoneDislikes:&nbsp; *&nbsp; Holy symbols can evidently just be two crossed sticks or some spilled paint on a shield and evidently if it's in your backpack it's still eligible for instant, dismembered spellcasting as a component).&nbsp; *&nbsp; I think they're overpowered &quot;just so people will play them&quot; (people hated playing clerics in the &quot;olden days&quot;).*&nbsp; I think that D&amp;D has moved to using &quot;gods&quot; as a crutch substitute for real adventure planning.&nbsp; &quot;Hey, it's a disease scenario, must be Incabulos behind it all...woooo, that was hard to figure it out...let's just go murder the proverbial evil cult and get it overwith.&quot;*&nbsp; PC's that are convert-or-die are no fun to play with..because after about the 6th campaign of that b.s., it get's old.*&nbsp; I don't think that divine spells should be exempt from armor penalties.&nbsp; Magic should be magic should be magic.&nbsp; If you wnat to give them &quot;Armored Mage (Ex)&quot; fine, but having a second category of magic is like having 6 different types of saving throws.&nbsp; It's just unnecessary.jh</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Emirikol, post: 2915758, member: 10638"] Likes: * That they are the most tailorable class in the game outside the fighter. * They are a priest and a holy warrior combined into one easy, playable class. If broken into two classes, neither would be generic enough for fun. * They're crunchy in dragons' mouths when they run out to save someone Dislikes: * Holy symbols can evidently just be two crossed sticks or some spilled paint on a shield and evidently if it's in your backpack it's still eligible for instant, dismembered spellcasting as a component). * I think they're overpowered "just so people will play them" (people hated playing clerics in the "olden days"). * I think that D&D has moved to using "gods" as a crutch substitute for real adventure planning. "Hey, it's a disease scenario, must be Incabulos behind it all...woooo, that was hard to figure it out...let's just go murder the proverbial evil cult and get it overwith." * PC's that are convert-or-die are no fun to play with..because after about the 6th campaign of that b.s., it get's old. * I don't think that divine spells should be exempt from armor penalties. Magic should be magic should be magic. If you wnat to give them "Armored Mage (Ex)" fine, but having a second category of magic is like having 6 different types of saving throws. It's just unnecessary. jh [/QUOTE]

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