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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Clavis" data-source="post: 2412873" data-attributes="member: 31898">Personally, I always liked the idea of godless clerics. In my Campaigns they are called Philosophers, and instead of spontaneously casting healing spells, they can spontaneously cast Divination spells. Otherwise, they are mechanically identical. Some Philosophers recognize the existance of dieties, but do not serve them. Other Philosophers are atheistic, sometimes violently so. This concept works for me because I have always made it very unclear in my games whether or not the Gods objectively exist. I compliment the atheistic Philosophers with a Paladin-like class called the Iconoclast.  Basically, they're militant secularists who wage war on all religions and Outsiders, good or evil. They are basically like Paladins in most respects, although all Paladin abilities that relate to evil or the undead are changed to effect Outsiders. Due to their commitment to Free Thought they are also immune to Enchantments, and can remove Enchantments from others. Naturally, it is against their Code of Conduct to ever receive aid of any form from a Divine source, or fail to undermine religion whenever possible.To atheistic Philosophers and Iconoclasts, all Outsiders are regarded as the enemy, because they try to trick humanoids into worshipping them. The Gods, if they exist, are no more than very powerful Outsiders, but certainly did not create the Universe, nor do they control its forces.</blockquote>

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