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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kenjib" data-source="post: 537707" data-attributes="member: 530">Actually LostSoul got it right.  My use of the word "option" was an unfortunate mistake.  I meant "option" in the more general sense of something that is integrally part of the rules and allowed, not option in the more narrow contextual sense of something that is not part of the rules but given as a possible variant.  Putting information relevant to the players for character creation only in the DMG is not, in my opinion, the most flexible way to provide an option.I do, however, agree with you that including the Greyhawk gods as default is more of a problem.  One solution would have been for the PHB to say "gods are handled differently in various campaign settings.  A cleric gets two domains.  Depending on the setting, a cleric usually must choose these two domains from those offered by the deity they follow.  Some settings may allow a character to choose any two domains and follow an ethos rather than a specific god.  Consult your DM for information on clerics and domains in your campaign setting."This has a big problem, however, in that it is not playable out of the box, so to speak.  I think the PHB needs to be playable out of the box, and so I think that the way they handled it is actually a pretty decent lesser of evils solution.  They provide all of the options for spiritual power (god granted and faith granted both), and use greyhawk to illustrate how they work.  This was the design principle behind the core books and I think it worked out okay.  It wouldn't have been very easy to get things going without a solid example of a pantheon in the PHB to base off of.Perhaps the best solution of all would have been to say something like what I wrote above and then said, "Following is a sample pantheon of gods..."</blockquote>

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