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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shadzar" data-source="post: 5456847" data-attributes="member: 6667746">Not the "dick move" thread, but other than combat a properly placed trap can easily and quickly kill a party member of turn into TPK.The point a trap exists, many don't realize, is to keep people out in general not just people of the appropriate level of the PC party. Maybe they were made for things of much HIGHER levels, which would mean they weren't meant to be screwing with this.Kind of like Ultima Weapon in Final Fantasy games. Beating one is full of rewards IF you can, but you have to decide if you want to take that risk, as the game doesn't require it.Engaging in combat or a trap if something in the player control and options. If I am going to railroad them into having to do something or go somewhere, then they are just captured for a bit and not likely to have a chance to risk life to escape.If we are just talking about things that would random kill the players or destroy the world...Yes, I am an ass that has given players a Deck of Many Things.But I am not going to set something up to kill off any number of PCs in order to further the plot unless a player so chooses his PC to die.It is not rewarding to me to have that work done and nobody interested in doing it, nor the players being asked which one will die.King Brian tricked Darby to set him free from his fate.Which one is the bigger cliche? You offer yourself as a sacrifice or after doing so, your reward is your life for the self sacrifice from some god-like being.It just isn't something I would ask of my players "Ok which one of you wants to kill your character to further the story?"I just wont serve them a lose-lose situation since they dont have access to reprogram the exam to beat the Kobayashi Maru.Beam me up Scotty, Kirk out.</blockquote>

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