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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shadzar" data-source="post: 5460603" data-attributes="member: 6667746">I have seen many where the life of a virgin had to be offered to a demon to bring them about, or keep them around/appease them, but few instances where the sacrifice of the life of a "good" was required to send them away.This suggests the powers of "good" would require that in order to produce the effect. I am not seeing that from a "good" power to ask that much, unless the reward was such that the one sacrificing themselves would gain a place on Mt. Olympus.The powers of evil require sacrifices, and the "locks" on evil to prevent them entering the word require the choice of the good to sacrifice to bring them in, or evil to to do...but never seen a "good" force that would ask this and still be though of as "good".Seems we are dipping heavily into the area MANY people don't like to talk about when requiring sacrifices.So It isn't about what the "demon needs" but the force itself needs to seal the demon. Would a "good"ly force require this?So the alter has been created as a special artifact magic item that requires the spell component of life's essence in order to trap the demon?Still sounds forced to me and not giving the players options.Pandora's Box was suffiecent to jsut seal thiings inside. Needed no sacrifice just getting them in there.That is a big problem of requiring the sacrifice to me. There are and have been so many more way.So the sacrifice should be ONE example for a supreme climax if that is wanted (by the players), but other methods should be allowed.What spells to seal a demon in general? Well if the sacrificial life does not extinguish the demons life essence so it cannot ever return, then what is the real point of the sacrifice? The demon can just come back later, so it was really just a wasted life. Seal weak over time and can be broken. So why give a life for it?Even taking the popular Naruto wherein the sacrifice lets you seal the soul of another while at the same time sealing your own....it doesnt always work so well. They had to make some pretty big gaping holes in order to shove that in, and still it could fail.It would also depend on the "demon" in questions and its powers.An example that could work quite well, not requiring new spells to be created:-flesh to stone the demon-reduce its size-throw it into a bag of holding and tie it up-end it to another plane-How about just get the demon to open a bag of devouring if you have one?-Greater Sign of SealingAssuming you are going up against something like this, you should have had time in advance to learn about it, weaknesses, and devise ways around it.Being hit with an "Oh one of you msut sacrifice themselves to seal it" at the last moment is just... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></blockquote>

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