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<blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 251563" data-attributes="member: 545">While it is theorectically possible for someone to have lower encumberance penalties carrying his armor rather than wearing, it just doesn't happen often in real play.Heavy armor, shield, weapons, and a couple skins of water alone are going to be close to 90 lbs.&nbsp; Throw in standard gear like rope, bedroll, spare weapons, food, etc. without being excessive, and you will have 130-150 lbs.&nbsp; It adds up quickly.&nbsp; Unless you are exceptionally strong you will be in that heavy load zone anyway.You also have to remember that the DM should penalize your effective encumberance if the weight is not properly stored.&nbsp; You are not going to fit 50 lbs. of heavy armor into a nonmagical backpack.From the SRD:Table: Carrying Capacity &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Light&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Medium&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; HeavyStrength&nbsp; &nbsp; Load&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Load&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Load--------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -----&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -----14 STR&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; up to 58 lb.&nbsp;&nbsp; 59-116 lb.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 117-175 lb.Table: Carrying Loads &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Max&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Check&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ----- Speed -------Load&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Dex&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Penalty&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (30 ft.)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (20 ft)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Run----&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ---&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; --------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ---Medium&nbsp;&nbsp; +3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 20 ft.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 15 ft.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; x4Heavy&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 20ft.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 15 ft.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; x3You compare the regular ACP with the load-based check penalty, and use whichever is worse.These limits make a big difference at low levels before you have magic items to compensate.&nbsp; A Rogue or Ranger may have 30-40 lbs. of weapns and armor.&nbsp; Food and water can be another 10-15 lbs.&nbsp; That doesn't leave much room if he wants to have a 30' movement rate.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ridley's Cohort, post: 251563, member: 545"] While it is theorectically possible for someone to have lower encumberance penalties carrying his armor rather than wearing, it just doesn't happen often in real play. Heavy armor, shield, weapons, and a couple skins of water alone are going to be close to 90 lbs. Throw in standard gear like rope, bedroll, spare weapons, food, etc. without being excessive, and you will have 130-150 lbs. It adds up quickly. Unless you are exceptionally strong you will be in that heavy load zone anyway. You also have to remember that the DM should penalize your effective encumberance if the weight is not properly stored. You are not going to fit 50 lbs. of heavy armor into a nonmagical backpack. From the SRD:[i] Table: Carrying Capacity Light Medium Heavy Strength Load Load Load -------- ----- ------ ----- 14 STR up to 58 lb. 59-116 lb. 117-175 lb. Table: Carrying Loads Max Check ----- Speed ------- Load Dex Penalty (30 ft.) (20 ft) Run ---- --- ------- -------- ------- --- Medium +3 -3 20 ft. 15 ft. x4 Heavy +1 -6 20ft. 15 ft. x3 [/i] You compare the regular ACP with the load-based check penalty, and use whichever is [b]worse[/b]. These limits make a big difference at low levels before you have magic items to compensate. A Rogue or Ranger may have 30-40 lbs. of weapns and armor. Food and water can be another 10-15 lbs. That doesn't leave much room if he wants to have a 30' movement rate. [/QUOTE]

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