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Message: <blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 8195974" data-attributes="member: 97077">As far as the specific rules governing climbing go, length of the climb is not a difficult situation the rules contemplate as evidenced by the given examples. So, no Strength (Athletics) check to resolve tasks related to overcoming the challenge of a lengthy climb. If the DM wanted to, however, the challenge can be framed on par with a forced march - a lengthy walk, if you will - and where climbing is concerned a lengthy climb. A Constitution check could be used if appropriate to test whether a character successfully climbs without suffering exhaustion by pushing past his or her normal limits, for example. But this shouldn't be conflated with the difficult situations during a climb for which the rules say a Strength (Athletics) check may be appropriate.As for the special boon, my point there is that when a DM presents a challenge - for example, a climb the length of which is past the character's normal limits - the player describes how his or her character deals with that challenge. In the infinite possibilities inherent in a fantasy game based on imagination, we can imagine a player overcoming the challenge without needing to make a check, perhaps by having some kind of special boon or the like that removes the meaningful consequence for failure (e.g. exhaustion) and with it the need to make an ability check.In no way am I saying that the DM needs to frame a challenge as I just described. Only that he or she could and how to resolve it within the scope of the rules.</blockquote>

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