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Message: <blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 8199909" data-attributes="member: 71699">Anyway, coming back to this part of the discussion. (Noting that for the sake of argument I will take your interpretation here as RAW.) We have these category delimiting examples -<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You attempt to climb a sheer or slippery cliff, avoid hazards while scaling a wall, or cling to a surface while something is trying to knock you off.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You try to jump an unusually long distance or pull off a stunt midjump.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You struggle to swim or stay afloat in treacherous currents, storm-tossed waves, or areas of thick seaweed. Or another creature tries to push or pull you underwater or otherwise interfere with your swimming.</li> </ul>Say I jump while heavily encumbered or into a powerful gale? Seeing as the second bullet point delimits the category but does not include those things, per RAW they cannot result in a call for a Strength (Athletics) check. Or if I swim while heavily encumbered, or in a medium other than water, or with my hands bound: while none of the bullet-pointed factors apply, per RAW that cannot result in a call for a Strength (Athletics) check.What are your thoughts about those cases?And then again, what of this from the section on special types of movement - climbing a slippery vertical surface or one with few handholds requires a successful Strength - how does that interact with the bullet-points? What I am getting at is - couldn't characters encounter a high, but not sheer or slippery, wall, with few handholds. The words here seem to expressly provide for a DM to have the option of calling for a Strength (Athletics) check. How is that apparent contradiction resolved?</blockquote>

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