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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 8086084" data-attributes="member: 6775031">That also makes sense, if you look at the roll as measuring "how well you accomplished your goal" rather than "how well you climbed". It's a nice way to look at it, because it means that a low roll is always worse than a high roll, regardless of whether or not you rolled high enough to actually succeed. It just doesn't sit well with me, because it makes the outcome reliant on qualitative things like "your goal" rather than quantitative things like "actual distance involved". It feels cheese-able, by a player who carefully declares their goals in such a way that they further their actual goal by failing at their declared goal, or something like that. And I really don't want to encourage that sort of thinking.</blockquote>