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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Norfleet" data-source="post: 1108083" data-attributes="member: 11581">You do realize that for even a DC 0 check for something simple, like, say, standing upright on level ground, a fighter with something like halfplate and a tower shield (-17 ACP) is unable to pass this even if he takes 10, which is not permitted in combat, and with a higher DC, or even a dexterity penalty, that fighter would be unable to remain standing even if he could take 20?Of course, there's just something about a heavily armored fighter falling down the stairs that makes me laugh and laugh and laugh. Maybe it's the same sort of joy you had as child from kicking a stack of pots and pans down the stairs. Or that I just really love the mental image of ANYBODY falling down stairs. Combine the two, and you have an irresistable, burst-out-loud laughing combination.</blockquote>