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Cloak of Elvenkind - Advantage to Stealth AND -5 to passive perception?
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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 8201377" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>The rules say that in combat most creatures stay alert for signs of danger all around, though the DM can say that some creatures are distracted for whatever reason. Outside of combat, there are rules such as for traveling (for minutes, hours, or days) in which if you're performing certain tasks, then you can't stay alert for signs of danger and your passive Perception does not apply. So it simply can't be that passive Perception is "always on." That doesn't even make sense in the context of passive checks.</p><p></p><p>Where it does make sense is in combat where one creature is hiding from another creature that is alert for signs of danger all around. The passive Perception is effectively the floor because, if the creature is hidden from you given what your passive Perception score is, then a Search action roll that is less than the passive Perception is irrelevant since the creature is still hidden from you. It doesn't become <em>more </em>hidden from you.</p><p></p><p>The issue is that people took what he said and just ran with it, applying it everywhere including for other ability checks and skill proficiencies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 8201377, member: 97077"] The rules say that in combat most creatures stay alert for signs of danger all around, though the DM can say that some creatures are distracted for whatever reason. Outside of combat, there are rules such as for traveling (for minutes, hours, or days) in which if you're performing certain tasks, then you can't stay alert for signs of danger and your passive Perception does not apply. So it simply can't be that passive Perception is "always on." That doesn't even make sense in the context of passive checks. Where it does make sense is in combat where one creature is hiding from another creature that is alert for signs of danger all around. The passive Perception is effectively the floor because, if the creature is hidden from you given what your passive Perception score is, then a Search action roll that is less than the passive Perception is irrelevant since the creature is still hidden from you. It doesn't become [I]more [/I]hidden from you. The issue is that people took what he said and just ran with it, applying it everywhere including for other ability checks and skill proficiencies. [/QUOTE]
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