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<blockquote data-quote="Iry" data-source="post: 8203205" data-attributes="member: 6777378">I completely agree with you so far.I disagree with this. There are a variety of situations where you might suffer disadvantage to a Perception check, including the text of Cloak of Elvenkind.You cannot Hide in light obscurement. You can remain hidden in light obscurement. You are revealed in no obscurement.Total Cover/Obscurement = Possible disadvantage on perception checks to find you, depending on circumstances. Can attempt to hide.Partial Cover/Light Obscurement = Cannot attempt to hide. Can remain hidden if you successfully hide in Total Cover/Obscurement earlier. Possibly disadvantage on perception checks to find you, depending on circumstances.PHB Page 177. &quot;You can’t hide from a creature that can see you clearly, and if you make noise (such as shouting a warning or knocking over a vase), you give away your position.&quot;So we know Hide immediately ends when you can be seen clearly (no cover/obscurement). We also know that you can only Hide when you cannot be seen at all (total cover/heavy obscurement). But a successful hide in total cover/heavy obscurement does not end when you move into partial cover/light obscurement. A perception check is called for, though.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Iry, post: 8203205, member: 6777378"] I completely agree with you so far. I disagree with this. There are a variety of situations where you might suffer disadvantage to a Perception check, including the text of Cloak of Elvenkind. You cannot Hide in light obscurement. You [I]can[/I] remain hidden in light obscurement. You are revealed in no obscurement. [B]Total Cover/Obscurement[/B] = Possible disadvantage on perception checks to find you, depending on circumstances. Can attempt to hide. [B]Partial Cover/Light Obscurement [/B]= Cannot attempt to hide. Can remain hidden if you successfully hide in Total Cover/Obscurement earlier. Possibly disadvantage on perception checks to find you, depending on circumstances. PHB Page 177. [I]"You can’t hide from a creature that can see you clearly, and if you make noise (such as shouting a warning or knocking over a vase), you give away your position."[/I] So we know Hide immediately ends when you can be seen clearly (no cover/obscurement). We also know that you can only Hide when you cannot be seen at all (total cover/heavy obscurement). But a successful hide in total cover/heavy obscurement does not end when you move into partial cover/light obscurement. A perception check is called for, though. [/QUOTE]

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