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Cloak of Elvenkind - Advantage to Stealth AND -5 to passive perception?
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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 8203365" data-attributes="member: 2629"><p>On the halfing and elf abilities, something to consider: There are two ways to consider them:</p><p></p><p>* These creatures get an ability to hide when lightly obscured (whenever they are under the specified conditions), and nobody else can hide when lightly obscured.</p><p></p><p>* These creatures get an ability to hide when lightly obscured (whenever they are under the specified conditions), and other creatures can hide when lightly obscured at the DM's discretion.</p><p></p><p>The second reading is RAW. How do we know this? The errata added the sentence as the first sentence under the HIDE description: The DM decides when circumstances are appropriate for hiding. </p><p></p><p>If you listen to the infamous Crawford interview, you'll learn that they wrote detailed hiding rules and then made the EXPLICIT and INTENTIONAL decision to gut them and replace them with DM judgment and interpretation. They overwrite that DM judgment and interpretation in certain places, such as the halfling and elven abilities people bring up, the skulker feat, etc... but in general, the exercise is up to the DM - so when those exceptions do not overrule the broad rules, it is up to the DM if a PC can hide in light obscurement.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 8203365, member: 2629"] On the halfing and elf abilities, something to consider: There are two ways to consider them: * These creatures get an ability to hide when lightly obscured (whenever they are under the specified conditions), and nobody else can hide when lightly obscured. * These creatures get an ability to hide when lightly obscured (whenever they are under the specified conditions), and other creatures can hide when lightly obscured at the DM's discretion. The second reading is RAW. How do we know this? The errata added the sentence as the first sentence under the HIDE description: The DM decides when circumstances are appropriate for hiding. If you listen to the infamous Crawford interview, you'll learn that they wrote detailed hiding rules and then made the EXPLICIT and INTENTIONAL decision to gut them and replace them with DM judgment and interpretation. They overwrite that DM judgment and interpretation in certain places, such as the halfling and elven abilities people bring up, the skulker feat, etc... but in general, the exercise is up to the DM - so when those exceptions do not overrule the broad rules, it is up to the DM if a PC can hide in light obscurement. [/QUOTE]
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