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<blockquote data-quote="Iry" data-source="post: 8203631" data-attributes="member: 6777378">The playtest packets (<a href="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qwk8517jn2knnnb/AAD9jRQ6uEWXRWnwaowt7llWa?dl=0" target="_blank">which are kindly archived here</a>) actually contradict themselves. I've researched each one, and the contradiction stays consistent from Packet 1 to Packet 10.<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">&quot;A creature can attempt a Dexterity (Stealth) check to sneak around, moving quietly and using cover and heavily obscured areas to avoid detection. [...] If a creature might see you, you need to keep behind cover or stay in heavily obscured areas to remain hidden.&quot;</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">&quot;You can't simply stand in the middle of an empty, lit room and hope to avoid notice. Something must conceal you, perhaps a large object, a piece of terrain, or an immobile creature of an appropriate size, such as a slumbering dragon. Regardless of what obscures you, the thing must cover at least half your body for you to hide.&quot;</li>
</ul>In the first passage, it outright states that you need to keep behind cover (not specified which) or stay in heavily obscured areas (VERY specific) to remain hidden. In the second passage, it outright states the thing must cover at least half your body for you to hide (VERY specific).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Iry, post: 8203631, member: 6777378"] The playtest packets ([URL='https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qwk8517jn2knnnb/AAD9jRQ6uEWXRWnwaowt7llWa?dl=0']which are kindly archived here[/URL]) actually contradict themselves. I've researched each one, and the contradiction stays consistent from Packet 1 to Packet 10. [LIST] [*][I]"A creature can attempt a Dexterity (Stealth) check to sneak around, moving quietly and using cover and heavily obscured areas to avoid detection. [...] If a creature might see you, you need to keep behind cover or stay in heavily obscured areas to remain hidden."[/I] [*][I]"You can't simply stand in the middle of an empty, lit room and hope to avoid notice. Something must conceal you, perhaps a large object, a piece of terrain, or an immobile creature of an appropriate size, such as a slumbering dragon. Regardless of what obscures you, the thing must cover at least half your body for you to hide."[/I] [/LIST] In the first passage, it outright states that you need to keep behind cover (not specified which) or stay in heavily obscured areas (VERY specific) to remain hidden. In the second passage, it outright states the thing must cover at least half your body for you to hide (VERY specific). [/QUOTE]

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