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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8212271" data-attributes="member: 6788736">[USER=6777378]@Iry[/USER]10 Orcs (N) are currently hidden in a room at the end of a 10' wide and 60' long hallway. None of the Orcs have any special abilities that let them hide in light obscurement.A lone adventurer (C) stands at the other end of the 60' hallway, watching down the hallway intently for the sign of any enemies. He is on watch and his friends lay sleeping in the room behind him.C relies on his darkvision 60' to see the entire hallway, through the open doorway, and 5' into the room beyond (in which the Orcs are hiding, outside of the 60' range of C's Darkvision).One at a time, the hidden Orcs each walk through the doorway, and down the hallway towards C, and then even go past C, in order to murder his sleeping friends:[ATTACH=full]133519[/ATTACH]The Rules say as soon as the hidden Orcs enter the range of C's darkvision (i.e appear on the other side of the doorway, 60' from C) they are automatically detected, as C is not distracted, which makes sense.But you're saying the Orcs can literally walk through the doorway, and down the hallway (a 60' long and 10' wide hallway, that C is watching intently) and go past C, without C seeing them unless he 'makes a perception check' to do so?That's absurd mate.</blockquote>