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Cloak of Elvenkind - Advantage to Stealth AND -5 to passive perception?
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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 8213341" data-attributes="member: 71699"><p>I want to draw a distinction between what you might find descriptively plausible, and what is logically possible. It is logically possible to arrange things so that the set of locations an entity can transition from a non-hidden to hidden state in, is smaller than the set of locations that entity can remain in a hidden state in. It's easy to see that - logically - those locations don't even have to overlap.</p><p></p><p>Remember that I am not arguing for descriptive plausibility. We're discussing a game system: if we want entities in that system to be able to remain hidden in locations that they cannot become hidden in, nothing stops us.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That special case is a clue into the possibility of the general case. Imagine a very particular type of wood elf - lignum elves, say - who cannot attempt to hide when lightly obscured, but if they are already hidden they are allowed to remain hidden unless their stealth check is beaten by a possible observer's perception.</p><p></p><p>EDIT You would agree that lignum elves are possible in 5e, right? Even if they don't exist in your game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 8213341, member: 71699"] I want to draw a distinction between what you might find descriptively plausible, and what is logically possible. It is logically possible to arrange things so that the set of locations an entity can transition from a non-hidden to hidden state in, is smaller than the set of locations that entity can remain in a hidden state in. It's easy to see that - logically - those locations don't even have to overlap. Remember that I am not arguing for descriptive plausibility. We're discussing a game system: if we want entities in that system to be able to remain hidden in locations that they cannot become hidden in, nothing stops us. That special case is a clue into the possibility of the general case. Imagine a very particular type of wood elf - lignum elves, say - who cannot attempt to hide when lightly obscured, but if they are already hidden they are allowed to remain hidden unless their stealth check is beaten by a possible observer's perception. EDIT You would agree that lignum elves are possible in 5e, right? Even if they don't exist in your game. [/QUOTE]
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